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why did you want to be an astronaut um

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so i wanted i remember thinking about

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being an astronaut during apollo

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probably not apollo 11 i was

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is that right i was five years old

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during apollo 11.

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but in those later apollo missions i

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remember thinking boy that would be

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something to be able to you know fly a

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rocket ship in this space

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and then for a long period of time i

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didn't think about it just seemed like

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you know just completely out of the

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question like other people did that and

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some kid from new jersey wouldn't

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wouldn't have that opportunity even

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though i lived my town was next door to

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where buzz aldrin grew up but anyway i

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didn't think i'd have that opportunity

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once i was flying airplanes off the

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aircraft carrier and later decided to

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become a test pilot and went to graduate

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school i thought you know maybe somebody

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like me could have that opportunity so

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started thinking more seriously about it

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eventually applied and got selected let

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me get you to fill in some of the

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details of that story start with with

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your hometown tell me what it was like

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there and and what it was like for you

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growing up there yes so i grew up in

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west orange new jersey

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which is a suburb of new york city

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at the time i thought it was more like

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the suburbs but it was actually

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you know kind of like more of an urban

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uh just being that close to new york and

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very you know new jersey's the most

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densely popular populated state so it's

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pretty densely populated place

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good schools

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stayed out of trouble i think because of

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that so you do have a sense that that

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there really was an influence on you

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from that place i think so i think so

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you know i think the big influence is

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they had a good public school system

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did you get the have you been able to

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make it out as you've flown over

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no you know i've actually tried to do

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that i've tried to get a good picture of

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west orange new jersey just you know new

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from the next i've taken you know big

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pictures of the whole area so it's in

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there somewhere but i've never taken out

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the 400 millimeter lens and grabbed a

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picture where you can tell it's the town

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tell me about the the path then from

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from west orange new jersey what's your

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your educational and professional path

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that that led to astronaut yes so after

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academy so i never actually lived back

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old and that's on long island new york

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the united states merchant marine

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academy graduated from there went

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directly to flight school four days

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later i mean immediately got in my car

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drove to pensacola no vacation

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and started started flight school

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the a-6 intruder in the persian gulf

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during operation desert storm flew 39

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combat missions there

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school in patuxent river

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school i was selected to be an astronaut

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in 1996 so 14 years ago

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what was it that got you interested in

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being in aviation and being a pilot

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so i went to a school that was focused

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the merchant marine academy and at the

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time i was really interested

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us to singapore and i thought oh this is

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as a test pilot you started looking at

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astronaut again

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yeah i think a lot of test pilots do

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that you know being a test pilot's fun

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fly new airplanes

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not in my case well i mean i flew the

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prowler but these were airplanes that

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were already in the fleet occasionally

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you know some test pilots get to fly

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brand new airplanes but we get to test

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new new weapon systems

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flights go it's still

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more or less in a test program even

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so it's like the ultimate test pilot job

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job that we know has elements of danger

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an element that that most people don't

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mark what is it that you feel we get as

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a result of flying people in space

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that makes it worth taking that risk

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each individual needs

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in in any job that's dangerous you got

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to evaluate the the risk and the reward

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dangerous there's got to be a pretty big

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you know impact and not only to me

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space shuttle and flying people in space

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every day i mean the fact that computers

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the moon and then back off you know with

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flies into the atmosphere at mach 25 we

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mission for us and tell me what your job

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missions there has that benefited your

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crew as you've been training preparing

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about station where stuff is located how

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spend some time and track down that

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answer but in our case with greg

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chamotov and mike fink two long-duration

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crew members i don't have to go very far

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for the answer which has been pretty

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convenient for me

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let's talk about some of the cargo that

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out of the payload bay and into position

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up on the port side of the truck so what

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we're going to do on flight day three

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right after we rendezvous we we will

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already have grappled elc3 before we

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rendezvous with the space station and

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once we get docked and get the hatches

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open one of the first things we do is

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we're going to pull the elc3 out of the

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payload bay i'm going to hand it off to

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the space station robotic arm and then

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we're going to install it on on top of

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the on the port side of the truss so

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it's a if you'll forgive the phrase a

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simple robotics operation uh

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you know none of them are really that

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simple i mean it's going to take

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two people on the space shuttle arm two

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two crew members on the space station

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arm and you know several hours to do

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this complicated

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task of safely pulling out pulling it

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out of endeavour's bay

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and then handing it off to the arm and

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then get it getting it successfully

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installed and i understand this is it's

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sort of just a plug-in and then it's

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there and the work is done yeah it is i

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mean once we get it attached it just

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sits there on you know in standby with

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you know different spare parts located

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on it and

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you know whether we you know maybe we'll

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need something in a year

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maybe we'll need one of those parts in

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10 years we just don't know

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the other major uh

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piece of hardware is the alpha magnetic

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spectrometer talk a bit more about what

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that is and what it's going to do once

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it's installed yeah so ams is a two

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billion dollar cosmic particle detector

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it's got 16 partner nations including

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the united states that are involved in

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designing

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and building this instrument

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it's got six sixty

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six zero different universities that are

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involved

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a lot of physicists

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it's managed by the department of energy

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but the program is located in in cern in

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geneva outside of geneva switzerland

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and the program specifically the

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principal investigator

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is a

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phd physicist nobel prize winner named

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dr samuel ting

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who envisioned

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and appropriated the money and

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constructed ams with a big team of

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engineers but mostly physicists

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and we're going to launch that as you

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know it's

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pretty much our primary payload and on

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flight day five of the mission we'll

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install it on station but

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ams is a cosmic particle detector that's

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going to look for a bunch of different

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things including

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antimatter

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dark matter and dark energy stuff that

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we don't know a lot about

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we think there's any matter in the

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universe naturally occurring we

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physicists believe that at the big bang

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there were equal parts of matter in any

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matter and we don't know where the

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antimatter is so we're going to the ams

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is going to try to answer a lot of those

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questions

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the question would always be to wonder

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about the significance of what it's

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going to do is understanding the origin

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of the universe

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seems relatively significant yeah

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absolutely i mean this is one of the i

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think you know one of the premier

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experiments that space station is going

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to have

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and since we've made some modifications

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to ams it's going to be able to function

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all the way through 2020 and beyond as

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long as the space station

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is in operation

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and it'll collect data that whole time

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and it sends you know daily it'll be

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sending

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you know gigabytes i think gigabytes of

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data to the ground that'll be analyzed

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initially here and then later in cern

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they're building a big operations center

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just for ams

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to analyze this data and you know over

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the course of the next 10 or 15 years

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hopefully we'll answer a lot of those

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questions about you know fundamental

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questions about how the universe began

388
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and what it's what its makeup is

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it

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gets installed in sort of the same way

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that elc does right it does so the next

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day on flight day five

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uh with the roberto vittori flying the

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space shuttle robot arm

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my italian crew member pull it out of

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the payload bay and just like we did on

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flight day four we'll hand it off to the

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space station arm

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but this time ams will be installed on

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the starboard side of the troughs of the

401
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space station once it's out there it it

402
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it works just by sitting there and

403
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gathering what comes by right well it's

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on you know it's it's functioning it's

405
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operated primarily from the ground

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it's a big magnet with a magnetic field

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that's

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two thousand times the strength of the

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earth's magnetic field i believe don't

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well it's too late you quoted me on that

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but

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it uh with this magnetic field it can

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detect characteristics of particles

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and send that info to the ground so it

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can tell the difference you know for

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instance between a helium

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atom and an anti-helium atom

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and could so it could

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detect whether there's you know

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antimatter flowing through it or not and

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over a period of time you know we we

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expect that it'll make some

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uh pretty amazing discoveries because

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the analysis of what it finds that's

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done by people on the ground will lead

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to that yes it's gonna and it's going to

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take a while to analyze that data

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no immediate answers about where where's

429
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the anti-matter i don't think we're

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going to turn it on and before we undock

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find out that we've discovered

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antimatter no

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you mentioned that the plan for your

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flight is that your crew is going to

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conduct four spacewalks and this could

436
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be done by three different teams of

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space walkers going outside

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as the commander of the shuttle crew

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what is your role going to be during the

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spacewalk so it's not so much three

441
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different teams i have three crew

442
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members that are going to be doing space

443
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walks and there's two on each

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on each eva

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so on

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so for instance

447
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drew feustel will do eda's one two and

448
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three mike fink will do

449
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two three and four and greg chamotov

450
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will do one and four

451
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so it's three people

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uh going outside in pairs over those

453
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four space walks my role as a the

454
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commander of endeavor just like i did

455
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when i was the commander of space

456
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shuttle discovery for sds 124 storing

457
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the evas

458
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my primary primary role after getting

459
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them suited up

460
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and outside

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00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,480
safely is to make sure

462
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that you know the eba is conducted

463
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safely and all their tethers are correct

464
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so i spent a lot of time actually

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looking out the window or on camera

466
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zoomed in on the crew member or

467
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in a window with binoculars making sure

468
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that they don't you know something

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doesn't come untethered

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that there isn't like a safety hazard

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so i just spent a lot of time just

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watching them

473
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we have another

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astronaut on board

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who's called the task iv crew member

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that's kind of leading them through the

477
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spacewalk he's got the checklist he's

478
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telling him what's next he's telling the

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settings for the tools they have and

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you know which connector to disconnect

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next and i mean just he's doing the the

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choreographing of the eva

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well i'm pretty much just watching to

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make sure we don't make a major mistake

485
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give us a sense of the kinds of jobs

486
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that they're going to be performing on

487
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these four different spacewalks i'm not

488
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looking for the each of the four

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timelines but what kind of work are they

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going to be doing out there yeah so on

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eva 1 we're going to install these

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external

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science experiments these missy these

494
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boxes with materials and circuit boards

495
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and stuff like that some of this stuff

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is for for for doe uh so we're gonna

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we're gonna bring in

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bring back to the shuttle some old ones

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that are ready to come home to be

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analyzed and we're gonna reinstall some

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some new misses on the outside of the

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space station

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and then

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uh

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we're going to get

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the some of the jumpers connected for

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and on eva2 we've got this big ammonia

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fill task that's a primary

509
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part of eva2

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along with some other things like a

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sarge lubrication so we have to take the

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covers off the sarge we're going to

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lubricate it and that's

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the bearing

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for the solar array

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so we're going to lubricate one of those

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and then on eba 3 we have some tasks

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to do on the russian segment on the fgb

519
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and fortunately one of our crew members

520
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mike fink has done

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a number of russian evas so he spent a

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lot of time on the russian segment so

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he's one he's he and uh drew feustel my

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ev1 will be

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we'll be doing ev eda3 and he's got

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experience there with the russian

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segment and then in the eva4 we're going

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to leave the obss behind so the boom

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that we use to inspect the space shuttle

530
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to make sure that there's no holes in

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the leading edge or no tile damage

532
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:09,360
we're going to leave that behind on

533
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space station

534
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:13,520
um presumably i mean right now that that

535
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that look that's the plan

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uh it probably is not going to depend on

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whether there's an sts-135 or not but

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we're going to leave our boom behind so

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the space station will have

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the obss if it needs it in the future as

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an extension

542
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of uh the space station arm

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and you're going to put it there after

544
00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:34,000
you presumably are done using it yes

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yeah we'll do a late inspection

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on flight day

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10 no flight date

548
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,400
but while you're still docked

549
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uh yes we'll while we're docked

550
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,120
we'll do a late inspection and then

551
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,679
we'll hand the boom off on flight day 10

552
00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:50,720
actually

553
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,360
the third spacewalk uh the tasks there

554
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,919
were a relatively late addition to uh to

555
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your timeline

556
00:20:02,390 --> 00:19:59,200
what were the circumstances that led

557
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:02,400
those jobs to being put onto your plate

558
00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:03,280
well

559
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,400
if we add an additional shuttle flight

560
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,919
sts-135 which i think looks pretty

561
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,960
likely

562
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:10,960
it's a crew of four

563
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,360
they're limited by

564
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:15,200
well a number of things one is you have

565
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,480
to be able to

566
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,320
get this crew safely home somehow

567
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:20,880
without a space shuttle rescue flight on

568
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,240
standby so they'd come home via soyuz

569
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:26,240
at a later date if there was a problem

570
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:27,520
so

571
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,640
last real shuttle crew that does

572
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,120
spacewalks

573
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,200
so

574
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:43,039
if we could fit it in our timeline and

575
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,880
we can we can

576
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,559
right now our mission is going to be 14

577
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,120
days and with four spacewalks since we

578
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,480
can fit it in the timeline there were

579
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,600
things that

580
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,200
that we wanted to get done

581
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:55,679
and in this case for eva3 at some some

582
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,559
stuff

583
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:58,799
on the russian segment and that got

584
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,400
delayed because of

585
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,880
other events that uh yeah things always

586
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,559
happen and then they you know they kind

587
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,400
of roll down here roll down

588
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,480
uh you also mentioned earlier about a

589
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:10,240
storm this is coming up during your

590
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,480
rendezvous and docking and again

591
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:14,880
during undocking and fly around for a

592
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:17,840
dto storm by the way is sensor test for

593
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,840
orion relative navigation risk

594
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,440
mitigation and yes i read it because i

595
00:21:24,830 --> 00:21:23,200
can't memorize it

596
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:24,840
but this is something new it includes a

597
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,200
re-rendezvous with the station tell me

598
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:28,640
what's going on here yeah so it's the

599
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,679
first time we'll be doing a

600
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,600
re-rendezvous with space station and

601
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,679
it's a different kind of rendezvous it's

602
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,520
different than what we normally do with

603
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:37,919
with shuttles so the plan is after we

604
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:40,400
undock we'll go out to about 400 feet

605
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,000
we'll do a fly around like we normally

606
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,159
do and then we come up back in front of

607
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,080
the space station again we're then going

608
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:47,760
to do these series of burns where we're

609
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,240
going to fall behind the space station

610
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,159
you know a couple hundred

611
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:54,080
thousand feet

612
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,039
and then we're going to come back in

613
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,039
doing a profile that's actually quite

614
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,880
similar to what apollo used for

615
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,039
rendezvous and instead of coming up on

616
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:04,799
the r bar which is right underneath the

617
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,679
space station or the v bar which is the

618
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:09,679
direction it's going we're going to come

619
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:12,960
up on a 45 degree angle from behind

620
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,799
and

621
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,280
this sensor is what was planned to be

622
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,440
used for orion and i imagine if when

623
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,720
orion

624
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,720
one day rendezvous and docks with the

625
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:24,480
international space station will use

626
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,200
this this storm sensor

627
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,919
and it's just more advanced laser system

628
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:31,200
cameras

629
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,559
that can give

630
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,480
you know some very accurate

631
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,960
range and range rate data you know it's

632
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,640
just using new technology so we're going

633
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:40,480
to test that as we come up to the space

634
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:41,600
station we're only going to get about

635
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:44,960
600 feet away before we uh eventually

636
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,600
you know do another burn and fall away

637
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,159
and get ready for for re-entry a couple

638
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,320
days later so is the hardware for this

639
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,240
in your payload bay but transmitting a

640
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,240
signal that bounce off the station yeah

641
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,320
exactly so the the hardware sits in the

642
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,240
forward part of the payload bay and then

643
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,720
we have a computer on board and one of

644
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,480
my crew members is going to be operating

645
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:06,240
storm from this one computer and that's

646
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:09,120
his only role so instead of your typical

647
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,559
you know four-person team for the

648
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:12,640
rendezvous we have a fifth person that

649
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:14,000
their only

650
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,760
to make sure storm is functioning and

651
00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:19,840
goes through its correct modes and that

652
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,919
we're successfully gathering the data

653
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:24,000
and to handle any any contingencies if

654
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,440
it's not working right

655
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,880
right up to the very last flight of

656
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,039
endeavour and still doing new things we

657
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,120
are right well this is to get to get

658
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,039
ready for what we're doing next

659
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,880
your flight is the last flight of

660
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,320
endeavor

661
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,480
what are your thoughts about this ship's

662
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,320
place in the history of human space

663
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:43,039
flight well endeavor was the replacement

664
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:44,559
for challenger after the challenger

665
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,520
accident

666
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:47,440
uh you know congress appropriated money

667
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,320
to build a new to build endeavor at the

668
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:52,240
time the thought was well maybe we could

669
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,360
modify

670
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:55,039
enterprise which was the approach and

671
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:56,240
landing

672
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,279
test

673
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,919
orbiter and it was decided that

674
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,000
to build a new one would actually be

675
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,080
more cost effective to do build a brand

676
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,600
new orbiter

677
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,440
and that became endeavor there was a

678
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,520
little contest to decide how we're going

679
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,039
to name it

680
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,960
but endeavour's now been flying i think

681
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:14,720
this is going to be the 25th flight of

682
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:15,679
endeavor

683
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,799
the 12th to the space station it's been

684
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,880
you know for the it hasn't been around

685
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,720
as long as discovery in atlantis but

686
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,919
it's done some

687
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,600
you know pretty major things did the

688
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:27,039
first hubble

689
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,559
repair mission

690
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,120
uh and since then you know it's been

691
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,159
back and forth to space station 12 times

692
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,520
so it got its own little slice of the

693
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,080
space shuttle story but it did i've

694
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,760
flown on endeavor before so i'm excited

695
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,600
to fly on it again and my brother's

696
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:45,440
flown on endeavor how do you feel about

697
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:46,559
the

698
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,000
history

699
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,720
well the space shuttle was designed to

700
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,400
build the space station that's why it

701
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,880
has this big payload bay

702
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,720
and it never really got to do that for

703
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,520
the first 20 years of its life

704
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:04,080
and now in the last 10 i mean it's been

705
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,640
critical in building iss maybe without

706
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:08,000
the space shuttle

707
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,240
international space station would not

708
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,000
be what it is today i mean we would not

709
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:14,080
have been able to build the space

710
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,120
station

711
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,679
so i think it's it's somewhat fitting

712
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,200
that you know the end of the shuttle

713
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,480
error is the

714
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,039
the beginning of the complete

715
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,720
uh

716
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,159
being finished with the assembly of the

717
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,880
space station and the utilization part

718
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:31,279
for the next 10 or 15 years

719
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:32,640
now you're going to be flying this

720
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,520
mission in relative proximity to a

721
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,440
couple of significant anniversaries on

722
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:39,039
april 12th we've got the 50th

723
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:40,640
anniversary of the first human space

724
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,240
flight as well as the first flight of

725
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,320
the space shuttle and then on may 5th

726
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,200
the first american space flight 50 years

727
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,000
since alan shepard's first flight

728
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,000
what do you think about the fact that

729
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,159
you are going to be in space around the

730
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:56,000
time that people are paying attention to

731
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,760
these kind of significant anniversaries

732
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,520
well while we're in space i could tell

733
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,720
you we're probably not going to be

734
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,919
thinking all that much about it because

735
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,159
we're really usually really busy i do

736
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,000
think it would be a pretty neat thing

737
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,240
though if we could launch on april 12th

738
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,480
you know 30 years

739
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,880
since sts-1 you know that would be

740
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:14,240
something

741
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,720
you know to reflect on

742
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,320
you know the space shuttle again and

743
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,000
what it's meant to the

744
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,240
u.s space program i mean more people

745
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,679
have flown on the space shuttle than any

746
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,480
other spacecraft i mean including soyuz

747
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,559
i mean the ability to fly seven people

748
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,240
into space and to have this huge payload

749
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,480
bay and an airlock and a robotic arm and

750
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,400
to be able to bring payloads home and

751
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,080
land on a runway

752
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,840
i mean this is the most capable

753
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,360
spacecraft

754
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,000
that's ever been built and probably will

755
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,480
be built for a long period of time

756
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,799
and i think you know americans should be

757
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:48,400
proud that we've you know that we've

758
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,200
been able to to build such a thing and

759
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,960
operate it successfully for such a long

760
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:55,200
period of time

761
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:57,039
space flight's changed an awful lot

762
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,039
since yuri gagarin's flight to today

763
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,880
where do you think we're going to be 50

764
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,480
years off in the future

765
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,279
yeah so gagarin flew 50 years ago

766
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,600
today we fly routinely

767
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:11,200
uh a space shuttle up to the space

768
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,240
station

769
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,240
50 years from now you know it's it's

770
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,919
hard to say it's hard to predict the

771
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,880
future

772
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:19,440
you know what i hope is that we

773
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,320
you know like 50 years from now like we

774
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,480
you know send orbiter up to the space

775
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,039
station maybe we're sending

776
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:29,520
people to a base on mars

777
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,320
you know that would be pretty

778
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:32,559
spectacular if we could do that i also

779
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,520
hope

780
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,080
that you know for intercontinental

781
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,720
travel like we do on an airplane today

782
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,720
then maybe it'll be spacecraft that are

783
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:42,480
used to get somebody

784
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,600
you know from

785
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,600
new york to tokyo instead of it being an

786
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,480
11 or 12-hour flight you know it's a